In this engaging episode of the Realistic CO Podcast, Mikey interviews John Doleva, the CEO of the Basketball Hall of Fame. John shares his unique journey from working in retail to leading a renowned institution. He highlights the importance of hard work, hospitality, and learning from each position held. The discussion covers his experiences with different mentors, leadership styles, and the significance of adaptability and active listening in achieving career success. Whether you're an aspiring CEO or just curious about the path to leadership, this episode provides valuable insights and inspiration.

00:00 Introduction: Defying Expectations

00:23 Welcome to the Realistic CEO Podcast

00:41 John Doleva's Journey to CEO

02:21 The Importance of Hospitality in Business

03:53 Developing Customer Service Skills

05:57 Taking Initiative and Filling Vacuums

10:52 Mentorship and Learning from Experience

15:38 Adapting and Building Leadership Skills

32:22 Balancing Work and Personal Life

35:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts